So a.... what do u guys/girls think?
Whoa! Desaan...a Jedi! Looking good.
Do you see that much depth in his clothing from all angles? Because, he looks 3-D here (especially though those front folds). I can imagine what he'll look like with a good vid card.
The shading is awesome. I know colors are not as bright in-game as in the model viewer. I'm thinking he'll be a slightly darker brown? Pants look like suede...
You know what? NVM. I'll just play with the model when he's finished. Maybe Beast should trim his nails, considering he's a Jedi now.
Nice work, as per usual. Do you have a release date? And when do we get to see your creations on JK2, anyway?
In case you didn't get my email, Angel, here's the comment I wrote.
Well... as you can see in my previous comments... I have a hard time 'sizing up' a skin and what the people will think of it
But my personnal opinion is that the skin is very nice. I like all the detail (folds, fabrics, etc.)
And I also agree with Equa on the look like a reborn model with a Desann Head. I could always give it a try and make him a little bulkier and also 'trim his nails'
But I would really like to see it in 3D in my ModView.... I would surely have a better ideo of the size and the also the skin.
Would it be possible for you Angel to distribute a 'beta' verison???
- Beast
EDIT: I just thought about something... To ake it look a bit bulkier without going throught me... you could always make his 'shirt' a bit brighter and add some folds to the shoulders and biceps... and then make his head color a bit darker (to add some contrast with the newly brightered skirt)
One thing to keep in mind, angel, that I noticed about Desann's head.
Many, many animals are DARK on TOP, and Light on the BOTTOM. (like your model's head.)
The reason for this is because our (and most animal's) brains are trained to recognize things that are BRIGHT on TOP and dark on the bottom as having volume: as being solid things, casting shadows, etc. And if a solid thing moves, if you are bigger than it, you can eat it. Bam.
So, animals, especially cute furry ones of the edible variety, evolved to be dark on top, and light on the bottom, to confuse our brains, not register as dinner, and give them the split second edge that it takes to scamper away.
So, what this means to your model, is one of the reasons he might look a little screwy is the head tonalities: being bright-chinned, and dark skulled is not how most people/enormous evil jedi-lizardmen look.
Perhaps toning down his chin will "optically" bring his head back into proportion (without having to change the model), and make him look LESS like a reborn, and make his shoulders look larger.
Also, making the change in direction in those folds coming down under his chest more pronounced might make him look like he is "buffer."
Anyway, My $.02
Rugg
Hey onewing!!! I was gonna make a jedi desann you took my Idea!!!!!!!
I know, and I'm sry. I waited a while but i heard no news of anything. If u want me to i will erase it from my computer.
naa don't erase it, its better than I could ever make it. just gemme some cred or something for the Idea.
it was my intention, i was gonna ask u when it was done and give u credit in the redme
Now then back to the skin. While I'm focused, aren't most jedi pretty scrany? I haven't seen luke with a six pack. Most jedis have a more bicker physique then weight lifter. I also colored in the chin arena, made it more brown. I don't really like it though because it makes his head looks kind of orange . Never fear though i can be fixed by making his head a deper shade of brown.
Firstly I want to thank Angel for sending me the beta version of the skin.
I was looking at it and thought of a detail that would be cool looking on the skin... Angel you could add some hard scale (and I mean HARD) to the neck of Desann.
Here is a pics of what I mean
EDIT: Or here is a link to the image... if it does not show up
http://www.geocities.com/samsters3000/index.html
what do you think ???
- Beast
I was thinking about the color thing that Rugg and others mentioned. Their statements are correct about light on top and dark on the bottom for the hunted. I however, I picture Dessan being a bit of a bad a$#. He IS the hunter.
I think that the underside color makes him look a bit pale/weak. I would suggest a bit more green or gray. If possible, keep the color proportions between the top and bottom. This way the top will be darker and bottom wil be less yellow. IMHO
shot 1
shot 2
whoops!
shot 3
Thank you very much rugg. These are screen shots from inside the game. All the work I have done on it is turn the chin the same color as the head, as for the hard scale I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!! but I'm thinking I could make a sith version with it and have him have a metal mask of something. What do you guys think?
yeah... that could be nice... by the way we could all enjoy these skin in the same 'pack'... you should make a blue, red and maybe the 'sith' skin you want to make and include them in the same pk3 (I think I'm repeating myself... but what the heck )... like my Infinite model (rjtartan)
By the way, I think in version 2, I'll replace the rjtartan name by only rj... yeah nice idea Beast...
Oh talking to mysef...
- Beast
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/ jedidesann.html
I will keep this site updated as i progress, check out red team version
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann.html
there we go
Nice work Angel,
But I was thinking about something... would it look a bit better if the red was a bit lighter... He is a Jedi afterall (well for now ), so all these dark colors don,t suit him as well... no ???
Well... that's my idea
- Beast
P.S: When I have the time... I was thinking about making addition to the Desann Model (the hard scale I was talking about a few post before)... I will try to make them an 'addition' only... easily removed or added. Well I think I found my next project.... I just have to get my program working now
Here's the blue version , Enjoy and give some feed back
Incase it didn't show up the URLs are:
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_002.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_001.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_000.jpg
The links didn't work so lemme try again
http://geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_000
Hmm lemme try some other stuff I'll get the pictures up one way or another
http://geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_000.jpg
nope didn't work
ok, I finally got it to work, but I had to make a new page, this one has the blue version and some in-game pictures of the default, enjoy and give me some feed back
Hey Angel,
Here is what I did with the Jedi Desann Head...
http://www.geocities.com/samsters3000/index.html
If you like it... I'll try to catch you on AIM to send you the image files.
- Beast
Could you perhaps make the whole top part of the head metal?
What do you mean ????
Making the top of the head all grey ??? (so no dark orange)
- Beast
Yeah just make all the dark orange above the mouth have the hard scale
Hey Angel,
Just wanted to know if you got my email with the face.jpg in it ???
I made the changes you asked (all he head in grey) and send it to your 'skin sending address'
- Beast
Here is a quit skin of the to-be sith version, I've been frying my brain on this for sooo long that I'm all out of ideas so any and all would be appreciated
well the most common thing to do for sith versions of jedi would be to simply change there robes and other black/dark colored.
Well for the Sith design of your skin... I would think the way to go would be 'designs'. I don't really know if I got the right word (cause Rugg is there to ask about it ) but what I'm trying to say is
1. Make the Default skin a bit darker (overall)
2. And add some things to it (like Ky hotpants, or like your RJ reborn Skin (the yellow lines))
3. Make something for the important part of the skin (the part where you want people to look at)
And you,re done.
- Beast
Definately put ky hotpants.....no skin is complete without them
Ky
nah, the Ky hotpants would make him Jedi Backstreet Boy, not Desann....
you......ill get you for that.....someday...you wait...when you least expect it too....POW!
Ky
What's the word on Jedi Desaan? I so want to meet this guy!
Well, my computer got a virus a little while ago so i had to uninstall everything, I'm not sure if he or any of my skins made it through
OneWing... if you're still interested in the project... I think I have a copy of this skin... I don't really know if you really worked on it after you sent me this copy... but I could resend it to you and you could make Infi happy
- Beast
Thank's for that opion Beato but first I need to see if he made it through the crash, you see this happends once before and when I re-installed the game all my old stuff was still there
OK OneWing... just give me a sign if you need it.
- Beast
Good news, I still have him and all the others. Also, I'm planning on releasing JediDesann without the sith skin just the basic team colors and a default, all I need to do is add bot support and maybe try and add new sounds.
Infi's happy now....
Gentlemen, ladies, BEHOLD!!!!!!! I live. Anyway, remember all those long months ago, and my awesome road trip across the country? Well, yeah, it was awesome, but when I got back, almost everything I owned was gone. Yeah, it sucks. This included my computer and my games, including Jdei Knight II and Jedi Academy, thus preventing me from getting on the server. Now you may be asking, why haven't I been trying to contact anyone, the reason for this is simple, I'm lazy; and my apartment was practically stolen so priorities people. Anyway I hope everyone is doing okand congrats to Ham, you finally made it man. As of right now, I am on my friends computer, I will try to check in whenever I can, but I don't know how frequent that will be. So, on to business, Beasto, you said you had a copy of my Jedi Desann? Could you possibly package it up and send it into jk2files.com? Also, I think the blue team had some coping problem in it, could you maybe take a look? This, of course, would be when you are just lying around and have nothing better to do. Again, I hope that you all are well, and that I may rejoin you all soon,
-=RJ=-OneWingAngel
Woohoo! The Angel returneth! WB, man.
HEEEEEEEEES BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
ONEWING?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!
WOPOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!
You have been missed sorely.
Rugg
Do you have a new machine yet?
OneWing!!! youre back!! its about freaking time too
And now I don't have to make your room by myself, you can give the idea, unless you want one of my creations
Ky
Great to see you're still around.
Hmm ... computer ... computer. Doesn't seem right that an RJ is existing without at least some rudimentary form of connectable equipment. Anyone have any spare parts they'd like to donate to the "Build-OneWing-A-Computer-to-Replace-His-Stolen-One" project? I'm sure I can dig up a few artifacts to throw at it. PM (or email) me if you'd like to help out. (OneWing, I'll finally need to get that ever elusive real-life address from you ... )
And, since you mentioned congrats to Mr. Hammy -- (and assuming you'll have a computer) don't know if you - and/or - Mr. Beast might want to collaborate on a little congratulatory Wookie outfit for the lad. It's a little premature to expect you'll be back on board quite so soon, but I'm sure he'd love to have both masters of the cloth collaborating on such a long-waited garment.
Again, good to see you. Welcome back around.
JB
I have a video card Mr. OneWing could have, should it come down to that. Be advised, it would be a very last resort kind of thing, its kinda...slow? Ok, it's horrible, but I would be gald to send it his way, if he so chooses.
Ky
Well... first... Oh yeah, baby !!! Angel's back !!!
And for the serious part...
Onewing: Yeah I do have a version lying around my comp... I,ll what I can do about packaging it... and sending it to jk2files... I'll keep you posted.
Jay: I'm already thinking about working on a caln skin for Ham... already asked him for his inputs... has given some... will cook up something... and I'll try to work with Onewing as much as we both can
- Beast
Thanks guys for your help, but I'm fine. I should have a new computer soon and be able to rejoin y'all soon. Thatnk for doing this Beast.
I hope I'll see you all soon
OneWing
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