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Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 9 2003, 11:22 PM

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So a.... what do u guys/girls think?

Posted by: InfiniteWarrior Sep 9 2003, 11:47 PM

Whoa! Desaan...a Jedi! Looking good.

Do you see that much depth in his clothing from all angles? Because, he looks 3-D here (especially though those front folds). I can imagine what he'll look like with a good vid card. dry.gif

The shading is awesome. I know colors are not as bright in-game as in the model viewer. I'm thinking he'll be a slightly darker brown? Pants look like suede...

You know what? NVM. I'll just play with the model when he's finished. wink.gif Maybe Beast should trim his nails, considering he's a Jedi now.

Nice work, as per usual. Do you have a release date? And when do we get to see your creations on JK2, anyway?

Posted by: Equanimity Sep 10 2003, 12:16 AM

In case you didn't get my email, Angel, here's the comment I wrote.

QUOTE
Angel - Desann looks too skinny in this model. You need to buff him up
somehow, make the shoulders a bit wider and his arms much thicker. Right now,
he looks like a reborn with a Desann head. However, the actual skin itself is
GREAT! I love how his two arms have different fabrics covering it. That is an
awesome touch.

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 10 2003, 08:12 AM

Well... as you can see in my previous comments... I have a hard time 'sizing up' a skin and what the people will think of it smile.gif

But my personnal opinion is that the skin is very nice. I like all the detail (folds, fabrics, etc.)

And I also agree with Equa on the look like a reborn model with a Desann Head. I could always give it a try and make him a little bulkier and also 'trim his nails' smile.gif

But I would really like to see it in 3D in my ModView.... I would surely have a better ideo of the size and the also the skin.

Would it be possible for you Angel to distribute a 'beta' verison??? smile.gif

- Beast

EDIT: I just thought about something... To ake it look a bit bulkier without going throught me... you could always make his 'shirt' a bit brighter and add some folds to the shoulders and biceps... and then make his head color a bit darker (to add some contrast with the newly brightered skirt)

Posted by: Ruggiero Sep 10 2003, 10:43 AM

One thing to keep in mind, angel, that I noticed about Desann's head.

Many, many animals are DARK on TOP, and Light on the BOTTOM. (like your model's head.)

The reason for this is because our (and most animal's) brains are trained to recognize things that are BRIGHT on TOP and dark on the bottom as having volume: as being solid things, casting shadows, etc. And if a solid thing moves, if you are bigger than it, you can eat it. Bam.

So, animals, especially cute furry ones of the edible variety, evolved to be dark on top, and light on the bottom, to confuse our brains, not register as dinner, and give them the split second edge that it takes to scamper away.

So, what this means to your model, is one of the reasons he might look a little screwy is the head tonalities: being bright-chinned, and dark skulled is not how most people/enormous evil jedi-lizardmen look.

Perhaps toning down his chin will "optically" bring his head back into proportion (without having to change the model), and make him look LESS like a reborn, and make his shoulders look larger.

Also, making the change in direction in those folds coming down under his chest more pronounced might make him look like he is "buffer."

Anyway, My $.02

Rugg

Posted by: Butter-Bean Sep 10 2003, 05:36 PM

Hey onewing!!! mad.gif I was gonna make a jedi desann you took my Idea!!!!!!! dry.gif

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 10 2003, 06:35 PM

I know, and I'm sry. I waited a while but i heard no news of anything. If u want me to i will erase it from my computer.

Posted by: Butter-Bean Sep 10 2003, 07:09 PM

naa don't erase it, its better than I could ever make it. just gemme some cred or something for the Idea. cool.gif

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 10 2003, 07:14 PM

it was my intention, i was gonna ask u when it was done and give u credit in the redme

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 10 2003, 07:31 PM

Now then back to the skin. While I'm focused, aren't most jedi pretty scrany? I haven't seen luke with a six pack. Most jedis have a more bicker physique then weight lifter. I also colored in the chin arena, made it more brown. I don't really like it though because it makes his head looks kind of orange blink.gif . Never fear though i can be fixed by making his head a deper shade of brown.

Posted by: InfiniteWarrior Sep 10 2003, 08:33 PM

QUOTE(OneWingAngel @ Sep 10 2003, 07:31 PM)
While I'm focused, aren't most jedi pretty scrawny? I haven't seen luke with a six pack.

Amen. I prefer the non-buffed look for this one. The proportions are great as they are. Please, please don't change that. Evil Desaan had nothing to worry about; he's evil. Jedi Desaan will have his conscience eating at him all the time... "Am I doing the right thing? Is this the best solution?" He'd worry a little weight off, if nothing else.

And the folds coming down the chest are the best part of this skin, imo. This is where I'm seeing so much depth and contrast. The length of the flap may account for the slimming down effect.

On a second look, I think you might want to add a little contrasting pattern to the upper portion of the boots before he's finished. "Ravage" has some great boots that were darkened too much to see the pattern that's there; they look basic black as they are. (You'd have to look at the jpeg to know what I'm seeing, I guess.)

BTW, what color are his eyes? I always thought Desaan's eyes should have been a brighter, lizardly yellow-green. They seemed a bit dull to me on the original. I don't mean glowing or anything; just a little more - pronounced.

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 10 2003, 10:29 PM

Firstly I want to thank Angel for sending me the beta version of the skin.

I was looking at it and thought of a detail that would be cool looking on the skin... Angel you could add some hard scale (and I mean HARD) to the neck of Desann.

Here is a pics of what I mean

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EDIT: Or here is a link to the image... if it does not show up
http://www.geocities.com/samsters3000/index.html

what do you think ???

- Beast

Posted by: Deacon Sep 11 2003, 11:28 AM

I was thinking about the color thing that Rugg and others mentioned. Their statements are correct about light on top and dark on the bottom for the hunted. I however, I picture Dessan being a bit of a bad a$#. He IS the hunter.

I think that the underside color makes him look a bit pale/weak. I would suggest a bit more green or gray. If possible, keep the color proportions between the top and bottom. This way the top will be darker and bottom wil be less yellow. IMHO

Posted by: Ruggiero Sep 13 2003, 02:46 PM

shot 1

Posted by: Ruggiero Sep 13 2003, 02:46 PM

shot 2

Posted by: Ruggiero Sep 13 2003, 02:47 PM

whoops!

Posted by: Ruggiero Sep 13 2003, 02:48 PM

shot 3

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 13 2003, 02:53 PM

Thank you very much rugg. These are screen shots from inside the game. All the work I have done on it is turn the chin the same color as the head, as for the hard scale I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!!! but I'm thinking I could make a sith version with it and have him have a metal mask of something. What do you guys think?

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 13 2003, 05:05 PM

yeah... that could be nice... by the way we could all enjoy these skin in the same 'pack'... you should make a blue, red and maybe the 'sith' skin you want to make and include them in the same pk3 (I think I'm repeating myself... but what the heck biggrin.gif)... like my Infinite model (rjtartan)

By the way, I think in version 2, I'll replace the rjtartan name by only rj... yeah nice idea Beast...smile.gif

Oh talking to mysef... blink.gif

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 16 2003, 06:08 PM

http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/ jedidesann.html
I will keep this site updated as i progress, check out red team version wink.gif

http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann.html
there we go

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 16 2003, 06:43 PM

Nice work Angel,

But I was thinking about something... would it look a bit better if the red was a bit lighter... He is a Jedi afterall (well for now biggrin.gif), so all these dark colors don,t suit him as well... no ???

Well... that's my idea smile.gif

- Beast

P.S: When I have the time... I was thinking about making addition to the Desann Model (the hard scale I was talking about a few post before)... I will try to make them an 'addition' only... easily removed or added. Well I think I found my next project.... I just have to get my program working now smile.gif

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 19 2003, 04:13 PM

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Here's the blue version biggrin.gif , Enjoy and give some feed back

Incase it didn't show up the URLs are:
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_002.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_001.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_000.jpg

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 19 2003, 04:16 PM

The links didn't work so lemme try again
http://geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_000

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 19 2003, 04:17 PM

Hmm lemme try some other stuff I'll get the pictures up one way or another

http://geocities.com/wangninja6/jedidesann_blue_000.jpg
nope didn't work

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 19 2003, 05:32 PM

ok, I finally got it to work, but I had to make a new page, this one has the blue version and some in-game pictures of the default, enjoy and give me some feed back biggrin.gif

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 19 2003, 06:05 PM

Hey Angel,

Here is what I did with the Jedi Desann Head...

http://www.geocities.com/samsters3000/index.html

If you like it... I'll try to catch you on AIM to send you the image files.

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 24 2003, 05:24 PM

Could you perhaps make the whole top part of the head metal?

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 25 2003, 07:41 AM

What do you mean ????

Making the top of the head all grey ??? (so no dark orange)

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 25 2003, 04:51 PM

Yeah just make all the dark orange above the mouth have the hard scale

Posted by: TheBeast Sep 29 2003, 07:31 AM

Hey Angel,

Just wanted to know if you got my email with the face.jpg in it ???

I made the changes you asked (all he head in grey) and send it to your 'skin sending address' smile.gif

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Sep 30 2003, 05:55 PM

Here is a quit skin of the to-be sith version, I've been frying my brain on this for sooo long that I'm all out of ideas so any and all would be appreciated

Posted by: *HAMSTAR* Sep 30 2003, 07:02 PM

well the most common thing to do for sith versions of jedi would be to simply change there robes and other black/dark colored.

Posted by: TheBeast Oct 4 2003, 10:26 AM

Well for the Sith design of your skin... I would think the way to go would be 'designs'. I don't really know if I got the right word (cause Rugg is there to ask about it smile.gif) but what I'm trying to say is

1. Make the Default skin a bit darker (overall)
2. And add some things to it (like Ky hotpants, or like your RJ reborn Skin (the yellow lines))
3. Make something for the important part of the skin (the part where you want people to look at)

And you,re done.

- Beast

Posted by: Kyzene Oct 11 2003, 03:25 PM

Definately put ky hotpants.....no skin is complete without them dry.gif


Ky

Posted by: XeroSaber Oct 11 2003, 10:07 PM

nah, the Ky hotpants would make him Jedi Backstreet Boy, not Desann....tongue.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif ph34r.gif

Posted by: Kyzene Oct 12 2003, 06:15 PM

you......ill get you for that.....someday...you wait...when you least expect it too....POW!


Ky

Posted by: InfiniteWarrior Jan 17 2004, 04:06 PM

What's the word on Jedi Desaan? I so want to meet this guy! wink.gif

Posted by: OneWingAngel Jan 18 2004, 02:30 AM

Well, my computer got a virus a little while ago so i had to uninstall everything, I'm not sure if he or any of my skins made it through

Posted by: InfiniteWarrior Jan 18 2004, 10:36 AM

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Posted by: TheBeast Jan 18 2004, 02:04 PM

OneWing... if you're still interested in the project... I think I have a copy of this skin... I don't really know if you really worked on it after you sent me this copy... but I could resend it to you and you could make Infi happy smile.gif

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Jan 19 2004, 08:10 PM

Thank's for that opion Beato but first I need to see if he made it through the crash, you see this happends once before and when I re-installed the game all my old stuff was still there

Posted by: TheBeast Jan 19 2004, 08:37 PM

OK OneWing... just give me a sign if you need it.

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Jan 20 2004, 06:10 PM

Good news, I still have him and all the others. Also, I'm planning on releasing JediDesann without the sith skin just the basic team colors and a default, all I need to do is add bot support and maybe try and add new sounds.

Posted by: InfiniteWarrior Jan 20 2004, 06:50 PM

biggrin.gif Infi's happy now....

Posted by: OneWingAngel Nov 7 2004, 08:56 PM

Gentlemen, ladies, BEHOLD!!!!!!! I live. Anyway, remember all those long months ago, and my awesome road trip across the country? Well, yeah, it was awesome, but when I got back, almost everything I owned was gone. Yeah, it sucks. This included my computer and my games, including Jdei Knight II and Jedi Academy, thus preventing me from getting on the server. Now you may be asking, why haven't I been trying to contact anyone, the reason for this is simple, I'm lazy; and my apartment was practically stolen so priorities people. Anyway I hope everyone is doing okand congrats to Ham, you finally made it man. As of right now, I am on my friends computer, I will try to check in whenever I can, but I don't know how frequent that will be. So, on to business, Beasto, you said you had a copy of my Jedi Desann? Could you possibly package it up and send it into jk2files.com? Also, I think the blue team had some coping problem in it, could you maybe take a look? This, of course, would be when you are just lying around and have nothing better to do. Again, I hope that you all are well, and that I may rejoin you all soon,
-=RJ=-OneWingAngel

Posted by: InfiniteWarrior Nov 7 2004, 10:02 PM

Woohoo! The Angel returneth! WB, man. biggrin.gif

Posted by: LPDarkJedi583 Nov 8 2004, 03:20 PM

HEEEEEEEEES BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK

Posted by: Ruggiero Nov 8 2004, 04:58 PM

ONEWING?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!

WOPOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!

You have been missed sorely.

Rugg

Do you have a new machine yet?

Posted by: Kyzene Nov 8 2004, 06:19 PM

OneWing!!! youre back!! its about freaking time too happy.gif

And now I don't have to make your room by myself, you can give the idea, unless you want one of my creations wink.gif


Ky

Posted by: JayBaen Nov 9 2004, 02:14 PM

Great to see you're still around.

Hmm ... computer ... computer. Doesn't seem right that an RJ is existing without at least some rudimentary form of connectable equipment. Anyone have any spare parts they'd like to donate to the "Build-OneWing-A-Computer-to-Replace-His-Stolen-One" project? I'm sure I can dig up a few artifacts to throw at it. PM (or email) me if you'd like to help out. (OneWing, I'll finally need to get that ever elusive real-life address from you ... smile.gif )

And, since you mentioned congrats to Mr. Hammy -- (and assuming you'll have a computer) don't know if you - and/or - Mr. Beast might want to collaborate on a little congratulatory Wookie outfit for the lad. It's a little premature to expect you'll be back on board quite so soon, but I'm sure he'd love to have both masters of the cloth collaborating on such a long-waited garment.

Again, good to see you. Welcome back around.

JB

Posted by: Kyzene Nov 9 2004, 03:02 PM

I have a video card Mr. OneWing could have, should it come down to that. Be advised, it would be a very last resort kind of thing, its kinda...slow? Ok, it's horrible, but I would be gald to send it his way, if he so chooses.


Ky

Posted by: TheBeast Nov 10 2004, 02:29 PM

Well... first... Oh yeah, baby !!! Angel's back !!! smile.gif

And for the serious part... smile.gif

Onewing: Yeah I do have a version lying around my comp... I,ll what I can do about packaging it... and sending it to jk2files... I'll keep you posted.

Jay: I'm already thinking about working on a caln skin for Ham... already asked him for his inputs... has given some... will cook up something... and I'll try to work with Onewing as much as we both can smile.gif

- Beast

Posted by: OneWingAngel Nov 10 2004, 06:53 PM

Thanks guys for your help, but I'm fine. I should have a new computer soon and be able to rejoin y'all soon. Thatnk for doing this Beast.
I hope I'll see you all soon
OneWing

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