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SubtleStar Posted on: Feb 28 2007, 08:26 PM


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I assume what you bought was one of those G4 Towers? But we're not talking about those. What we're talking about now is what's currently out there for consumers. Sure, they still sell G5 and now Core 2 Towers, but those are very expensive ($2,500 for the tower alone) because they do some pretty heavy duty stuff. That isn't what the average consumer is going to buy, unless they have need for something that the G5/Core2 Towers offer.

Yes, those have room for expansion. But I'm talking about iMacs. What you buy is what you're stuck with. When looking at every iMac listed on Best Buy's website, this is what I see.

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SubtleStar Posted on: Feb 26 2007, 09:07 PM


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"Sub,

I think you are missing the point.... "


Only point I was making was that your list was made of fail. Out of that entire list that you posted, the only things we didn't have were the Mic, Webcam, bluetooth and wireless network card. While thinking about your "Frontrow" stuff...I later realized that we do have something for that. Media Center. Which has been around since 2002 and is included in the build of Vista we chose.

As for the webcam. It should have read "no one cares to have one built into their monitor" (except for Mac people, of course.). I can understand that being done for laptops, and I think it’s a good idea. But for desktops, I stand by my statement. Most people want something they can move around.

"but to bring a stripped-down PC up to par with it, one has to do a lot of work, spend a good amount of time, and spend a substantial amount of cash."

We seemed to do pretty well bringing it to the same functionality... you must have forgot the part where we SAVED money. Somehow, I don't think missing a wireless or Bluetooth card = a “stripped-down PC". Same with the microphone. A lot of people end up buying headsets now, anyway. And if we ditched the extra video card to keep it the same as your Mac, that’s $300 left over to buy those things.

The only reason you guys get ALL that stuff, is because they HAVE to give you it. You can’t build a Mac. You can't upgrade a Mac (RAM doesn't count). So they have to shove all that stuff down your throat whether you like it or not. I prefer to save money, and buy something that fits my personal needs. Not a whole whack of **** thrown in that I'll never use, that only serves to bump up the price.

Enjoy your computer that'll be obsolete in a year from now.

"The Mac's programs & interface are all now being emulated by Microsoft"

Programs, perhaps….interface? Looks pretty much the same to me.

"Again, your new programs "built into" Vista are... how old? Right, new additions to the platform. So, you guys are catching up to where the Mac was in this department 3 years ago."

Oh, man! Thank you for saying that!! I had made a bet with someone that even though we have practically everything Mac's have... You'd say something like "but we had it first!" It doesn’t matter who had it first. If I can get the same things for a Windows based PC, why should I or anyone else switch?

"By the way, it is obvious, that you have never used Garage-band, or you would not propose a "freeware" alternative. GarageBand comes with something like three GIGABYTES of loops"

Wait...so the music is already done for you? You just put the loops together? Didn't I say something about being spoon-fed...? I suppose if we even cared to match Garage-band, we could get something like FL Studio.

"Ditto PhotoGallery-iPhoto; Freewarere-Movie-editor/iMovie; iWeb, etc."

Are you saying that iPhoto comes with 3 GIGABYTES of pictures already...so you don't have to go out and take some yourself?! And the same with iMovie? BTW, I didn't say we had a "Freeware- Movie-editor” We’ve been able to edit and make our own movies with Windows Movie Maker since XP. And iWeb? Give me a break. That’s just as lame as people using FrontPage to make a website. According to my research, people who want to make a REAL web pages use Dreamweaver.

"Walk a mile in a Mac's (stylin') shoes before poopoohing the experience. You might be pleasantly surprised."

I wasn't poopoohing the experience. Only thing I 'poopoohed' was your list. I have nothing against Macs aside from them becoming paperweights too soon, and the fanboys who think they’re the be-all end-all of computing. Quit being a victim of the Reality Distortion Field. You might find it refreshing.

For those of you not in the know, and for those under its influence:

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The Reality Distortion Field is the mutant capability of Steve Jobs. It is like Magneto's power of magnetism, only in this case, it will make you want to buy an Apple product. An example of the Reality Distortion Field in action was the original iMac. It was underpowered, overpriced, had no floppy drive, and only two USB ports. And yet because it looked like a jellybean, everyone wanted one. Whole books were devoted to it, websites were dedicated to it, teenage boys drew hentai representations of it -- yet it was just a gimmick.

--Encyclopedia Dramatica


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RDF is said to distort an audience's sense of proportion or scale. Small advances are applauded as breakthroughs. Interesting developments become turning points, or huge leaps forward. RDF focuses less on outright deception and more on warping the powers of judgment.

-- Wikipedia
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SubtleStar Posted on: Feb 9 2007, 10:23 PM


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no video camera <-- no one cares. Besides, most people like a camera they can actually MOVE around, without having to change the position their monitor sits.

no "out-of-the-box" system-migration tool <-- Windows has had a system-migration tool built in since XP. Nice try, though.

no dvd authoring program <-- built into Windows Vista.

5 usb ports <-- 4 backside, 2 front on Kyzene's. ALL USB 2.0

no microphone <-- because the first thing I'm going to want to do when I buy a new computer is use my microphone! I mean. That’s definitely the ONE deciding factor when buying a new computer</sarcasm>. They’re incredibly cheap, and we do have $200 left over, after all.

no firewire <-- Firewire is built on the motherboard. rofl.

no photo program like iPhoto <-- Windows Photo Gallery, built into Vista. Has the same functionality(and then some), which you Mac fanboys have been crying about for months.

no movie program like iMovie <-- We have a program for that. It's been around since XP.

nothing like GarageBand <-- Easily solved with a freeware program.

nothing like FrontRow <-- Forgive us for not being lazy enough, that we need to have a program to utilize a remote control. Just for access to our music, photos, movies, etc.

no video chat software <-- WTF? MSN, skype, yahoo, aim... "But they don't come ‘out-of-the-box!! Lolol’". Well, we don't need everything spoon-fed to us. Like you Mac users.

no voice-regognition <-- regognition? never heard of it. I have, however, heard of voice recognition. That's built into vista as well. But, really, no one cares about that stuff.

no remote <-- 'cause that's SUPER important to the usefulness of a PC.

no wireless networking <-- Wireless cards are cheap, and that machine has quite a bit of room for expansion. Unlike your precious Mac. Besides, most people like to have a constant transfer rate on their network... Instead of the ups and downs that can happen on a wireless network. Stability while playing an online game is something important, too and is sometimes problematic on a wireless network. But seeing as you guys can’t play many games, I can see how that isn’t an issue for you.

no bluetooth <-- Should we EVER need Bluetooth connectivity, a USB adapter can be bought. I have yet to own anything that utilizes Bluetooth.

P.s what's this? <-- WOW, Ghost Recon?!?! You can play a game that was originally launched in 2001 for PC’s?! That’s a step up for Mac.. The game that comes with Kyzene's system was released in May, of last year.

It's hard being wrong, all the time, Ruggiero, I know. But just take consolation in the fact that you are not alone.

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SubtleStar Posted on: Feb 9 2007, 02:30 AM


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QUOTE(Kyzene @ Feb 9 2007, 02:21 AM)
With the $200 extra I have I could take advantage of the 16GB of RAM limit on my motherboard..


How much would a Mac like that set me back?
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SubtleStar Posted on: Feb 5 2007, 08:06 PM


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Hey, no problem dood. I just figured it was more fun to comment on, rather than a rehashed Mac vs. Windows topic. happy.gif
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SubtleStar Posted on: Feb 5 2007, 04:45 PM


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No kidding. Not to mention the lack of said "hot 3x video".

You disappoint me, spambot. sleep.gif
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SubtleStar Posted on: Nov 21 2006, 04:53 PM


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Blue light is blue!

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SubtleStar Posted on: Nov 16 2006, 05:26 PM


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Ya dood. Server need help. Can't switch maps, can't chat, adds bots whenever you try to join.

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SubtleStar Posted on: Nov 15 2006, 02:31 AM


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QUOTE(*HAMSTAR* @ Nov 14 2006, 07:22 PM)
mmmh I'd never buy that... Besides I have already invested into buying THIS Come this Sunday... It will be mine, oh yes. it will be mine.... biggrin.gif
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You're winnar!

I pre-ordered mine back in May. wub.gif

Sunday isn't coming fast enough!!!
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SubtleStar Posted on: Aug 24 2006, 10:16 PM


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QUOTE(Kyzene @ Aug 24 2006, 07:27 PM)
Just make sure that your screws aren't too tight, otherwise you'll run into Sub's random shutdowns  rolleyes.gif
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I thought posting ridiculous things like that was the cool thing to do in this topix.

Oh well
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SubtleStar Posted on: Aug 24 2006, 12:27 PM


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QUOTE(JayBaen @ Aug 24 2006, 10:37 AM)
but, I also love my PC and don't seem to have the horrifying experience you profess the PC to be.
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What do you expect from a mac fanboy? They'll over exaggerate anything.

Oh snap! Random shutdowns?!
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SubtleStar Posted on: Aug 17 2006, 09:35 PM


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SubtleStar Posted on: Jun 6 2006, 10:50 PM


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Saw that a couple days ago. Still gets me laughin'.

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"You got an ATM on that torso lite brite?!"
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SubtleStar Posted on: Jan 24 2006, 02:13 AM


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It wasn't a different language...they were just singing this the whole time! happy.gif

Link:Corn on the Cob!

Best viewed in IE, so the sound works properly.
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SubtleStar Posted on: Jan 10 2006, 02:54 AM


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So what you're really saying is that...Your mac needs 2 graphics cards, and 'souped-up' dual processors to produce a whopping 23 FPS on your map... Reference photo:
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I think that's fantastic! Especially since my inferior, unstable, Windows based PC...with ONE processor, and ONE graphics card..recreating the same photo (with a more attractive character, of course) can only produce this for a max FPS...

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SubtleStar Posted on: Jan 8 2006, 07:21 PM


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oops!
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SubtleStar Posted on: Dec 31 2005, 12:00 AM


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Most beautiful map I've ever played! happy.gif

QUOTE(InfiniteWarrior @ Dec 30 2005, 06:19 PM)
With many thanks to a dear friend.  ^.^

I knew you'd enjoy it as much as I did. Good thing I dragged you in there with me, huh? tongue.gif
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SubtleStar Posted on: Dec 28 2004, 07:49 PM


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The one in the JA version? Wow...someone else found it! *applauds* happy.gif
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SubtleStar Posted on: Nov 1 2004, 08:34 PM


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Another dimension, new galaxy!!

INTERGALACTIC PLANETARY!!! happy.gif
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SubtleStar Posted on: Apr 27 2004, 10:29 PM


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I never thought I'd be making an account here just to yell at someone...but, this guy is really getting on my nerves. LPDarkJedi, kindly do us all a favor and shut the hell up. You're the most annoying person whose posts I've had the displeasure of reading on these boards. When I first saw you throwing a tantrum at TheLizardKing because of his opinions on Jedisaber's website, I lost all respect for you. If someone doesn't share your opinion, who cares? IT'S THEIR OPINION!! Deal with it! And why did you post in Binx's introduction topic if all you were going to do is spout off something so lame? Keep your pointless little comments in the topic YOU made about LP. Or better yet, keep them to yourself. I'm sure that wasn't the type of welcoming Binx was hoping for.


Face it, not everyone is going to like the same band as you. It's not the end of the world. So suck it up, Princess. It's YOUR favorite band...and just because it's YOUR favorite band, doesn't mean that it has to be ours too! Sorry to say, but the world doesn't revolve around you. I'm not too fond of Linkin Park either...are you going to attack me because of that as well? and as for what you said in Binx's topic.
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"DONT DISS OUT MY FAVORITE BAND CAUSE THATS JUST PISSING OFF THE GOD  OF DEATH."
WOW! That was...pathetic! What, do you really think you're intimidating anyone? What a joke. That's the most childish thing I've seen in a long while...how old are you anyway? 12? 11? GROW UP. With the attitude you've shown on these forums, I doubt anyone cares to hear what you have to say..especially when it's in all caps and doesn't make any sense. If you can't handle other people's opinions on music or anything else for that matter, perhaps you should leave, and take your fanboyism with you. I'm sure no one is interested in seeing your little hissy fits anymore.
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